Friday, October 1, 2010

What Diana Murphy Doesn't Want You to Know about Molly, the Draft Mare

One of my friends returned a 12-year-old Suffolk cross draft mare, Molly, to Diana Murphy of the Voice for Horses Rescue in Toledo, Ohio, because she has proven to be extremely green and difficult, even dangerous, for inexperienced riders. Despite my friend's pleas, Diana has refused to honestly represent this horse. She insists that she is safe for beginners. Someone is going to get seriously injured or worse because of Diana's blatant disregard for the safety of others.

My friend, Kristen Boltz, as seen in her comments in the Facebook thread you are about to read, pointed out the behavioral issues with this horse, who, at 17.1 hands tall and 2200 lbs., is a very large, powerful and intimidating animal--and more so taking her aggressiveness towards humans into consideration. Kristen's pleas fell on deaf ears as Diana steadfastly refused to change the information about her. It is Kristen's brutally frank opinion that if an inexperienced rider should attempt to ride or handle this extremely powerful horse, he or she could be seriously injured or worse, even killed. Read on:
Molly, the Suffolk draft cross when she was with Kristen


Molly's Video
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    •    Cathy Flynn approved home application for VFH http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=148807108467308 Questions Email Diana Murphy murphy-diana@att.net
    •    August 25 at 9:10pm · LikeUnlike
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    •    Anne Dillenbeck What is the story on this horse? Does he/she ride? looks like a Belgie with at tail...any information appreciated!
    •    August 25 at 10:27pm · LikeUnlike
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    •    Char Notman yes she is broke i rode her shes very sweet and an easy girl to handle stands to mount and to be gromed shes a sweet girl that needs a home shes a suffolkpunch cross baild priv.from pa killpen the size scared the girls friend and she came to us
    •    August 26 at 8:02am · LikeUnlike
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    •    Leah Ayers Do they ship to West Coast. Have a friend in AZ who is looking to save a couple horses, one for her tall husband. She looks like a solid horse for a guy. how tall?
    •    August 26 at 8:02pm · LikeUnlike
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    •    Char Notman yes im sure someone will shes like 16 hands or better shes a belgin shes huge and rides well
    •    August 26 at 8:15pm · LikeUnlike
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    •    Char Notman sweet girl loves the attantion
    •    August 26 at 8:19pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_HVbz5U3k
    •    6-22-10 - Suffolk cross or Belgian cross mare approx 16 hands and teenager w/t www.ac4h.com
    •    August 27 at 8:20pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Leah - maybe they would like her. ARe they interested possibly ?
    •    August 28 at 1:26pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Leah Ayers I sent to my friend. I will ask again. She is in phase of looking for boarding & shipping options/fundraising questions etc...
    •    August 28 at 1:52pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko ♥ fingers crossed .
    •    August 28 at 2:00pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Val Hunsinger Available for direct bail or no?
    •    September 1 at 10:32pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Val I think this horse is safe and needs home only.
    •    September 1 at 10:35pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Val Hunsinger ok, I just got on here after a busy day and I see several I like but will never be able to do everything in time. I can do direct bail, no problem. Thanks, Rebecca.
    •    September 1 at 10:38pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Well if you can direct bail one then please do it. So many need help : )
    •    September 1 at 10:39pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko ok got the confirmation - she is safe and needs a home. If you could still donate in lieu of bailing her - that would help the others. Just a thought. : ) If you are not an approved home you would have to apply. This is a gorgeous horse...If I had a place I would take her.
    •    September 1 at 10:47pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading... ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Val - LEt us know what you think. : )
    •    September 1 at 11:42pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Or Leah - maybe your friend. !
    •    September 1 at 11:43pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Kristine Alden What's up with her right rear foot? In the video it appears that her fetlock is hitting the ground with almost every step.
    •    September 10 at 4:58pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Marianne Boone Thanks Kristen, the mare we bailed last week is also over 17+ and is not well broke either....looked like she was in the video, but she is a feisty one. Think her buddy was keeping her calm, but her buddy had already been bailed when I tried for the pair. So, we are looking for a rideable companion for her....would like one that is nicely broke to ride since most of the others we have are in training and it would be nice to have a couple for a relaxing, calm ride (for a change).....lol
    •    September 15 at 12:02pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz She's a good horse, but now that she's healthy, she realizes how large and powerful she is. I have a Belgian that I ride on trails.
    •    September 15 at 12:12pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy this mare has been nothing but respectfully here at our rescue, stubborn with feet never tried to kick, loved to be groomed gets along well with others and respects us on the ground as well, every horse responds differently to every person, this is why we accept applications and try to match the horse with the person
    •    September 15 at 12:28pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Jamie Pisculli well sadly this is the chance we take in dealing with these horses especially!! im sure molly is wonderful!! and maybe she has issues but who dosent~~~!! thanks Diana for all the hard work!!
    •    September 15 at 12:34pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy she is a good girl and again horses are different after they arrive and get to thier maximum health we all know that and any horse could hurt anyone just due to thier size, but we do our best to be sure we match them with the right person. and appreciate everyone and anyone who helps these horses get out of the broker pen
    •    September 15 at 12:38pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Diana - would this one be good as a trail horse. Also, will the foot problem come back ? I am asking for someone - not for me. : )
    •    September 16 at 3:52pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Jamie Pisculli Who said you didn't?
    •    September 16 at 4:06pm · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Marianne Boone
    •    Kristen, please calm down for a minute.....I don't think anyone meant anything negative about you, or intentionally disregarded the work you have done with her.
    •    Like me, some of these other folks probably don't know the history on this mare or who was involved with her....we only know where she is now, and who has her now.
    •    I understand your frustration, and I am sure that everyone that knows the whole story would be very grateful to you for all you have done for her....please don't give up on others because of misunderstandings or lack of knowledge on our part.....please. Keep up the great work that you do !See More
    •    September 16 at 4:30pm · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading... ·
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz You still don't have the decency to change her height on there? Have you done her hooves since you've had her, because it sure doesn't look like it. I'm so pissed right now.
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    •    Rebecca Rockko Kristen - I just want to say that if you worked on this horse then thanks for what you did. You should be commended. : )
    •    I saw your previous comment that was deleted. : )
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz I want a GOOD explanation as to why that horse is still wearing a broken halter (it broke right before transport)... WHY she appears not to have her hooves trimmed, after we spent all that time correcting them so they didn't hurt her, and how you have time to DELETE MY FUCKING COMMENTS... but can't even update her information.
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    •    Tina Hammond Diana. you claim to love horses but why don't you tell the TRUTH about this horse before someone gets hurt and this poor horse ends up back in an auction because you misrepresented it to the adopter.
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    •    Diana Murphy
    •    A Tina and Kristen if you cann talk in a civil manner I WILL block you from posting if you have a beef with me please take it private so the FB members do not have to see your posts of vulgar language. This horse is a good girl for us and ...we screen our people carefully and if we feel they can handle a horse like this we then inviste them out to meet the horse to see if it will be a match, and this horse WILL NEVER END UP IN AN AUCTION AGAIN that is why we have contracts to they come back to us if it does not work out, as all of our horses do and then some, hence this mare who was privatly bailed but we took her in becasue Kristen and her wife were not a match for her. As to why she still has the same halter one we did not have a draft halter at the time of her arriving but have since bought one for her, , the comment it broke before shipping, not likely, and horses get thier feet trimmed on a schdeule at to the severity of thier needs and condition, which she is on a list with others soon to be done.See More
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    •    Renee Marie Paxton So, the mare lost her team mate?
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz
    •    That HORSE is 17.1 hands, not 16.
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    •    You didn't even contact my references. I've spoken to ALL of them. Shows how well you screened me. I could have lied (which I didn't), and gotten a horse and starved it or abused it, etc. I don't believe you, at all.
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    •    BTW, thanks for the "heads up" on Dante's teeth and the fact that he's closer to 35-40 years old... and that he's going blind. I really appreciate it. (That's sarcasm, BTW.)See More
    •    48 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy no this mare is from Kristen who proivatly bailed her and had to get rid of her becasue her wife was intimidated by the horse, the draft team is intact and going together to a new home
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    •    Renee Marie Paxton No, Diana. I know that. I read the above posts and it looks like she lost her mate at NH who sold privately.
    •    46 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz Molly wasn't part of a pair. My Belgian is from Sugarcreek and they were not in a team together.
    •    45 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy Kristen, you adopted a broker horse, it was the same situation as Molly was, you adopt sight unseen, you know we do not know anything about these horses only what you see on the ac4h page and the videos, and also signed an agreement as to this, we are in OHio never see the horse, just findraise for it, you wanted a quiet horse for your wife and we felt this horse would be quiet due to the video, if you are not happy we will be glad to make arrnagements to have the horse brought back to the rescue at our cost
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    •    Renee Marie Paxton Ok, my bad. Sorry, I thought maybe that's why she was so difficult.
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz I don't want Dante anywhere near you, thanks.
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    •    Diana Murphy That is fine updates are appreciated as per the contract, thanks and have a good night Kristen
    •    42 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz You didn't even contact my references. If you want updates, you can look at my photos... which... oh... you can't, because my page is private. When you can learn to actually carry out your part of the contract, then you might get a photo or two. Until then, you can deal with what you've gotten from me.
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    •    Renee Marie Paxton If you read this thread this mare came out of NH and was split up. Read Char's note at the top.
    •    38 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy Kristen, I recall you had made a comment that you do not get in the middle of things and stay neutral, you siad in one breath you liked me becasue my passion for horses but then blast me with the next breath huh, now who is lying, but that is ok, I know you are upset about things and going through a storm in your life I will pray you get the strenght you need to rise above and I will never look down on you for anything you say agaisnt me, it is obvious the devil has his hands on you God Bless
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    •    Diana Murphy Renee, this mare was privatley bailed by Kristen from the Broker lot, was never a team, sorry for the wrong info if Char posted it.
    •    34 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Renee Marie Paxton Diana, just a thought...if she is termed as "dangerous" what about sending her to one of the draft rescues who knows how to deal with them. I know you are educated with horses, however the drafts are sometimes best with a draft rescue.
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz
    •    I don't believe in the devil, so don't start with your religious BS. The devil has his hands on me? What a crock.
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    •    You LIED about the reason we gave her up (which is real dumb, considering a Belgian that I broke personally is MY mount... so... why would size be an issue, anyway?). You're accusing me of lying about the halter. That's hilarious, because it the clip snapped when I was trying to catch her, before loading her up.
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    •    You're acting like this horse was worked on, via you. She had her hooves done less than two weeks before you got her. She gained damn near 500 pounds in my care... but I didn't do anything. Real nice, to discredit me and all the work I did with her.
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    •    Who taught her how to canter nicely? Oh... that was... hmmmm... me. Who taught her to back? Oh... that was me, too. Who taught her to stand nice to be tacked up? Me... but you make it sound like I got some horse that I couldn't handle, to dump it off. Way to go.
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    •    You have insulted my family, as well as myself, and I do not take kindly to that.See More
    •    31 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
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    •    Diana Murphy Renee, this mare was rode by two individuals who were advanced beginners and they did well with her, each horse has it's own personality and she is not deemed dangerous only by an individual who claimes she is but we have had no issues with her what so ever very nice mare, good on the ground as well as saynds to be groomed , and ridden buy several people different levels of riding and she did test but never dangerous, she acted like every other horse that tests people as to what they can get away with
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz Oh, so I'm lying about her behavior, too. Real cute.
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    •    Diana Murphy Kristen no one has insulted you or your family, we are saying obviously this horse was not a match for you or your family this is why you had to find her another place to go, here she is a different horse with us, so please if you cannot laeave this horse horse alone, she deserves a home who can give her one.
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz You're still not answering my question as to why you didn't contact my references and approved me. Wouldn't that make our contract null and void?
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    •    Diana Murphy ask your vet and farrier if we contacted them, and no you signed the paerwork and is is binding, Good Night, I must respond top others who have been patiently waitng as well, thanks
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    •    Kristen 'Feist' Boltz
    •    I asked them repeatedly if you contacted them, and they said they heard no such thing. That's why I want to know why you said you did.
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    •    If you failed to complete your end of the paperwork, then technically, you voided the contract. Whatever.... Just stay away from my horse and I. I'm done with you. If you need update pictures, I'll go take them at my convenience.See More
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    •    Diana Murphy Thank you, I appreciate it
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    •    Sally 'Pip' Schrock
    •    Oh are they really going to a new home, Diana? Really? Did you tell the new owners the truth about Molly and how intractable she is, and likely to hurt or kill an inexperienced rider? I bet you didn't even bother to check their references, ...like you didn't Kristen's.
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    •    You are absolutely sickening and disgusting in the way you play fast and loose with not only the horses you claim to care so passionately about, but also the lives of the people who end up adopting them. If Molly should seriously maim, or worse, kill someone, it's going to be on YOUR head, Diana, and for that I hope you rot in jail! This is outright fraud and misrepresentation.
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    •    Kristen has told you numerous times already, till she's blue in the face, how big and dangerous this mare is, yet you continually turn a deaf ear to her pleas. I normally don't wish harm on anyone, but it would serve you right if Molly were to kick you in the head for your callousness and blatant disregard for the safety and welfare of people-- especially kids.
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    •    Barring that happening, I, Kristen, Paula and Alli, Kima, Tina, Michelle Howard,  and many others are going to see to it that you end up behind bars along with your cohorts Lisa, Christy, Sharon Stone, Colleen Cramblet, and God knows who else--and on yes, Dr. Jim Holt too, for issuing fraudulent health certificates for horses that had no business being shipped across the interstate.
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    •    It's going to happen and there's nothing you can do about it, with evidence against you piling up every single day. Your ship is sinking fast, and your supporters are abandoning it in droves and going over to the other side, the side that sees what FRAUDS all of you are. As Craig Lundgren has said so many times on his wall, "The truth always comes out!"
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    •    And one last word: don't you DARE lecture Kristen on her language when you allow your blindly obedient lackey, Char Notman, to post comments on my wall as well as those of others with similarly vile language. I know you're making her speak for you and it's disgusting how you manipulate her as a means to an end, for your own selfish purposes. That is hypocrisy pure and simple.
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    •    SCUM. LOWLIFE. FRAUD. CHARLATAN. CROOK.. I could go on and on, but I think that those words pretty much sum up what kind of person you really are.See More
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    •    Diana Murphy Sally you have nothing to do with this horse or any of our horses, stay off my wall if you are not here to help a horse, you have never done anything to help a horse peroid.
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Since then, Diana Murphy deleted the entire post along with Molly's photo. Despite an agreement with Kristen to repost her photo with a more honest description of this mare's behavioral issues, she has not done so. What has become of this horse since is anyone's guess: she may still be at the rescue in Maumee, Ohio. Perhaps an experienced rider or trainer adopted her. Or.... she may have been sent away to an auction to be sold all over again on top of the money Kristen spent to direct bail her. Worse case scenario: she may have been sent packing on a long, tortuous and hellish ride in a tractor-trailer along with dozens of other unfortunate horses to the slaughterhouses in Canada or Mexico.


The bottom line is, Ms. Murphy has clearly demonstrated her callous disregard for the health, safety and welfare of the public through her comments and actions with regard to Molly. A truly honest and ethical rescue would never knowingly put a potential adopter's life in jeopardy, but instead make every attempt to match horse to rider. The good, legitimate rescues know they have reputations to protect and that means describing every horse's shortcomings, faults, quirks, and health issues as well as their good points. That brutal honesty may scare away potential adopters, but in the long run, it can prevent tragedy down the road for both people and the horses themselves. Isn't that what is truly important?

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sellers need to be aware that even though disclaimers are included in purchase contracts or agreements if a horse is grossly misrepresented there is cause for recourse for damages and liability with or without injuries involved. I think that some might benefit to read this article describing horse sales and transfers in the U.S.
http://www.bc.edu/dam/files/schools/law/lawreviews/journals/bclawr/44_3/03_TXT.htm

Anonymous said...

SCUM. LOWLIFE. FRAUD. CHARLATAN. CROOK. Sounds like Sally herself.
Sally there is absolutely nothing, Zero that you can do to me. Give it your best shot, double dog dare you. You will just be laughed at like you are now behind your back. Even the officials back in Olathe laugh behind your back. I think my new years resolution is to not waste my time with a loser such as yourself. For all of your hot air, it's proven that you had issues with your animals and your home way before anybody like Diana or Christy or anybody else even knew you. Only have yourself to blame for what happened to your home and animals. And your are so dumb that you even harassed the law in your town. What a dumb ass. For all the time that I have seen you posting your stories you have yet to prove anything. Nothing has come to fruition and all say is "your day will come" you have been saying that for months and months. Seems like the only person that has been proven to be an ass is you, and the only one that has suffered at the hands of the law is you.
When are you going to stop putting your family through this shit and grow the hell up. Is it really a thing that a sister should be doing to her brothers? Why should they have to worry about you and your life all the time, when are you going to stand on your own two feet?
The only thing your doing is causing ALL RESCUES HARM, good or bad they are all suffering because of you and you are sooo dense you cannot even see that. And your friends? Evidently they are blind also. You think people are jumping ship and crossing over to the dark side, guess what, a few of your "old friends" have done the same. They are tired of your same old boring tirades. You sound like a broken record. They are tired of hearing it, it's depressing to people to listen to you. And then when people are bored you have to turn it up a notch and like a child run away from home. Should have stayed missing, it was peace on earth while you were gone. One last thing, because I understand you cannot help yourself and I almost feel sorry for you but seriously you should concentrate on getting your shit together. Take care of your personal business, let your brothers have some peace knowing you might still have a brain cell left and that you have the ability to manage your own affairs. Get a life, live your life not others.

Anonymous said...

I can tell you this horse (Molly) is safe and currently at a rescue in Ohio awaiting adoption.

Anonymous said...

Please someone from this blog contact me. I have more to add, but I want to speak with someone. She killed my horse. 734-512-3183

ByteG8S said...

Can you contact me via Facebook? My profile is Sally 'Pip' Schrock. Thank you very much! I am so sorry this happened. Sally

Anonymous said...

As a "rescue network" people need to realize that horses might be rescued if they can be... but the network is actually made up of: vet -for authorizations; Meat Killer - for horses that cant be re-homes; and strangers who might say they want a horse. RESCUE is a misnomer, and only the rare horse actually finds a "forever home". Use at your OWN RISk.